Gay Marriage? Don’t Really Care.

I am a Christian, but I really do not care what consenting adults do. I do not think homosexual relationships are all that healthy, but I’m not all that impressed with heterosexual relationships.

Honestly, if a gay couple can experience the love and companionship I have been blessed with in my marriage, I say all power to them. If people want to form extended relationships like those Heinlein imagined in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, I really do not care. If asked I might advise against it but I have my hands full doing a good job with my own relationship.

Expecting people who do not believe in God to conduct their lives as if they did believe in God is a doomed proposition. I am a lifelong Christian, and it’s hard for me to conduct my life as if I believe in God. Even so, though it is not my expectation, it is still my recommendation.

I believe in God, I believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God in its original manuscripts. I do not think that the Bible is a book of suggestions for better living, but it is a love letter written to humanity inviting the estranged children of the creator to restore communion with Him. That said, it has a LOT of wonderful prescriptions for living well with your neighbor and with yourself. A person who mimics the conduct of the Savior may not gain salvation, but he’ll probably live a happy life and be well regarded by his community.

Herein lies the intersection of faith and civic life. As a believer, I have a duty to participate in our civic sphere. I have a duty to use my best judgement in good faith. I must search my heart and reflect upon what I really and truly think would be the best policies for our society.  I cannot in good conscience support something that I believe is a grave mistake.

Under this rubric, if I am asked if the State ought to sanction gay marriage, what I hear is should the state sanction being gay? As a private matter, it is none of my business. As a public matter, I think it is very dangerous for the state to enact laws that conflict with God’s. When I look at the wreckage of society after society that made war on God, it seems to me that shooting the bird at the Father is profoundly unhealthy.

This really pisses off my secular minded friends, and they spend a lot of time trying to delegitimize my concerns because they are predominantly sacred rather than secular. I am maligned as being no better than a Jim Crow bigot.

I bear gay folk no malice, and would not deny a good thing to anyone. I do not think every moral precept should have the weight of law. However, there are some positions I have to take as a matter of faith and obedience. My God and I do not always agree, but I know that when we disagree I am the one who is wrong.

11 thoughts on “Gay Marriage? Don’t Really Care.

  1. This is how they get things into the government’s hands, that do not belong there.
    This is why, real advances are made when we focus sharply on our local areas, instead of Washington, not only politically, but privately.
    Too many “groups” are being USED to advance far left agendas, and those “groups” should be really ticked about that!
    If we can win the local battles, the Washington bureaucracy will fall, and we can take over, once again, the country that is rightfully ours, as a gift from our God.
    UNITED WE STAND!

  2. It’s magnanimous of you to accept gay marriage, but I don’t quite see it the way you do. If homosexuals were private about their relationships, it would be a different matter, but they are quite public about it and, most importantly, they want all the benefits of marriage. I’m not averse to this so long as it does not cost the taxpayer, but their public displays often adversely affect impressionable young people, who aren’t really sure of their sexual identities and acceptable behavior. History tells us that when you have a state of total immorality, that is the precursor to the demise of a society as a working unit.

  3. There is much in your commentary I can readily agree with. However, with all due respect, there are many reasons not to socially legitimize, much less legalize, behavior that is destructive to the participants and innocent others affected by their behavior. My inclination as a new Christian was a liassez-fare, let people do what they will attitude. But the longer I live the more I realize that, as you yourself indicted, thumbing our noses at God and rebelling agains His created order will never turn out well.

    As a fellow Christian, I feel sure you also take seriously God’s admonition to care for the “least of these” and not to cause children to sin (Matthew 18:6). A recent study outlines how children whose parents are involved in homosexual relationships are impacted. You can see the highlights here to better understand what I mean:
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/my-2-dads-childhood-not-so-happy-and-gay/

    I don’t bear homosexuals any ill will either (I have a family member and close friend who have been involved in the gay lifestyle), but I believe genuinely caring for them means speaking the truth with love, not going along with a premise that is harmful to them and others.

  4. Kim, that’s pretty much the conclusion I reached:

    Herein lies the intersection of faith and civic life. As a believer, I have a duty to participate in our civic sphere. I have a duty to use my best judgement in good faith. I must search my heart and reflect upon what I really and truly think would be the best policies for our society. I cannot in good conscience support something that I believe is a grave mistake.

  5. “I believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God in its original manuscripts.”

    Have you read the original manuscripts? If not, how can you have any idea what they say? Much of what now constitutes Genesis began as oral tradition. Wherein is there an original manuscript?

  6. This is a fair question, but far too broad for a complete answer. I suggest Josh McDowell’s Evidence that Demands a Verdict for a review of how the Bible came to be. Short answer, no serious scholar has a problem with the extancy of scripture. Also check out the scholarship on the Dead Sea scrolls and how it validates the work of Hebrew scribes over hundreds of years. It is a remarkable story. If you accept the Iliad, you have to accept the Bible under the same rules.

    For the purpose of this discussion, I don’t care if you don’t believe it. What matters is that I believe it, and I am doing my level best to be faithful. So are many of my co-religionists.

  7. God took the trouble to divinely inspire the authors of the original manuscripts so so his will could be unambiguously understood, no? Why then allow the waters to be muddied with errant, uninspired translations? I mean, if through God men can speak in tongues, why would it be so tough for God to ensure his exact words be passed to present day readers?

  8. Rick, to your point – we need a Savior, because no matter how unambiguous something from God is, we are bent – distorted by sin. Scripture can be perfect, but I am not and never will be. I cannot possibly understand everything in scripture correctly – I need only understand enough.

    An imperfect analogy – I need not know all the details of a life saving serum, I need only believe enough that it will save me and take the dose.

    For what it is worth, I truly do see how this seems so damn puzzling. Faith is weird, and if I understand the scriptures correctly, even the faith we need to believe is a gift from God.

  9. Editor’s Note: For those who might be following along, Rick and I are Army buddies from the late ’80s. I consider him a friend and I am very fond of him. Don’t read to much into Rick’s online demeanor, he’s always been like this. I recommend to anyone that they cultivate a friend who will not put up with any of your crap. Rick and I go ’round and ’round over what is and is not crap. Good times.

    Rick, if I have never detailed the gospel to you, I apologize. Between now and the time I can formulate a proper, personal response, I invite you to look at something we believers call “The Roman Road.” While I believe the whole of Scripture details God’s plan of salvation, the Apostle Paul’s writings in the book of Romans puts it as plain as anywhere else in scripture. Here is a link: .

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